By Federale
Most of the opposition to mass deportations of illegal aliens claims that it is either too expensive or there are too many illegals to deport. The Left’s solution is just giving illegals amnesty and open the borders to whomever wants to come, solving the crisis. This position is usually held by astute liberals and Kamala Harris. Solve the problem by ending the problem. There can’t be a crime problem if there are no crimes—because crime has been declared legal.
There is though another, though less popular, argument against mass deportations. The people making this argument claim it will mean the deportation of American citizens and mass deaths of the deported when they arrive home.
Now, for the record, while I’m a supporter of mass deportations—although I don’t know what plan Donald Trump has for his next administration. I think he means significantly increasing deportations, which is eminently possible even within a difficult system, but you never know with Trump.
During his first campaign he talked about creating a Deportation Force, but apparently did not know that the government already has a deportation force, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which is in charge of finding, arresting, and deporting illegal aliens.
Trump has mentioned Operation Wetback recently, but while that was an achievement, it was in a completely different legal environment. In the 1950s there was no immigration court system as today, embodied in the Executive Office For Immigration Review (EOIR) and the Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA), part of the Department of Justice (DOJ) and under the supervision of the Attorney General.
Only a legal change can end the current right of an alien to have a hearing before the EOIR, with limited exceptions, such as with Expedited Removal, which is a legal authority to remove illegal aliens without recourse to the EOIR, but it is limited to aliens who have entered within two years of being arrested.
So, once in the U.S. for two years, illegal aliens are eligible for a long, drawn-out hearing process, rather than instant deportation as happened under Operation Wetback. But a legal change expanding Expedited Removal to all illegal aliens would make mass deportations easier.
The claims of deported Americans and mass deaths caused by arrests or being deposited in Haiti to starve to death are nonsense, in many cases based on assumptions about immigration law that is not true. For instance, when discussing immigration and deportation, many taking the absurdist position on deportations either don’t know that Americans cannot be deported, only aliens can be deported, or knowing so, just lie.
That is not as absurd a position as it may seem, a common tactic in discussing illegal aliens is to claim that they are really Americans (the libertarian Reason Magazine published an article called When De Facto Americans Are Deported in 2019) but just without some piece of paper. For instance, those illegal aliens who received benefits under the Deferred Action For Childhood Arrivals (DACA) are called undocumented Americans, while another group of illegal aliens, commonly called Documented Dreamers, the children of Non-Immigrant Visa (NIV) holders who can no longer include children aged 21 and over on a NIV renewal application. Usually these are adult children of H-1b, L-1, E-1, and E-2 NIV holders that allow for long-term, but temporary residence in the United States, call themselves Americans as well just because they lived here as children.
The tactic is, of course, to conflate residence with citizenship, or even long-term illegal presence, with citizenship. The argument is that they are American in all but name, but don’t care or just ignore that there is much in a name, especially a name that confers citizenship, American.
Sociologist and failed political candidate Will Stancil, who calls himself “repetitive and annoying” is well-known on the internet for his absurd claims and positions. His latest is that any deportations under another Trump Administration will be the worst refugee crisis ever.
Stancil apparently conflates “refugee” with “deportee” without any apparent knowledge of even what a refugee is. A refugee is defined in international law as a person fleeing persecution in his country of citizenship. So, any alien deported from the United States is not in anyway a refugee, even if they had an asylum claim denied by legal process in the United States. A deportee is an alien removed or eligible for removal from the United States through a legal process.
But Stancil does not know this. According to him, deportees are refugees and a world crisis.
20 Million American Refugees Caused By Deporting Americans?
What we have here is either blatant dishonesty or incredible ignorance. Is Stancil unaware that Americans will not be targeted for deportation and that only aliens can be deported? Or is he lying for a political purpose, hoping to frighten Americans into voting for Kamala Harris because Orange Man Bad will be grabbing up Americans for deportation when he can’t find enough illegal aliens?
Knowing Stancil, stupidity might be the correct answer. Note the lack of subtlety. The smart liberal would argue that in the past a small number of Americans have been incorrectly identified as aliens and been deported. Most of these cases involve either people whose claim to citizenship is based on some of the more complicated claims to derived citizenship based birth abroad to a non-custodial American father not married to the alien mother of the child, the American deported being mentally-ill and falsely claiming alienage, and in many cases, especially near the Mexican border, claiming to be Mexican in hope of deportation rather than criminal punishment.
But I don’t think Stancil has any knowledge of the complexities of derived citizenship. And, moreover, he does not make that claim. He just says Americans will be deported. And apparently not “Americans” in the sense of DACA or Documented Dreamers claims to be Americans.
But with Stancil, there are no subtleties. One in 15 Americans might be caught up the by the Deportation Force.
Every American Is Vulnerable To The Deportation Force
Note how Stancil claims the number of 20 million illegals that Trump will be targeting is not true. While there is quite some disagreement among scholars of the subject of the illegal alien population, Yale University produced a study that claimed the illegal alien population was at 22 million. So, yes, there might be 22 million illegal aliens, but if the population of illegal aliens is still at 11-13 million, then it does not follow that the Deportation Force will just begin to grab up Americans to make a quota.
Stancil just gets crazier, egged on by an immigration attorney.
Deporting Illegal Aliens Is A Stain For All Time
Stancil tells us how it will work, “ … armed men coming and grabbing one in fifteen people …”
Then he claims he does not know how it will work, mechanically.
Ah, The Inevitable End, Concentration Camps!
Then we get the ultimate liberal logic, it is all just another Holocaust!
And the crazy reinforce each other. Deportation to Haiti is death!
Deportation Is A Death Sentence
There is not a chance of mass starvation if 300,000 Haitians return to Haiti. Haiti is the beneficiary of the largest international aid program in the world, and Haiti’s population curve has been ascending like a hockey stick since 1950:
Sadly, the debate over immigration appears to be based on either lies of the left, or a misunderstanding of what can be done by Donald Trump. One side is disingenuous, while the other does not fully understand that solutions to the problem are limited by the law and there must be changes before we can get another Operation Wetback.
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